Well the Borg were shown to be all over the Galaxy far away from the Alpha Quadrant & possibly existed millenniums before the Romulans even went into space & the when the Romuluns did first encounter the Borg, they didn't know what they were & thought the Federation was responsible. There is a theory that the Romulans were the ones to create the Borg. I can't wait for it's release so I can download it. Frequently, during Borg encounters, there's often a survivor or two, such as Guinan, or the people Seven saved in "Dark Frontier", so given that the Borg have probably encountered the Dominion at least once, there was probably at least one survivor, who probably told the Dominion government "Hey, I'll take what I can get in terms of Borg defense, and the Dominion is worth a shot". Ivy95 Nov 24, 2020. It's unclear why Soji, or even the Borg, would seek to destroy all life, since this isn't the villains' prime directive. If the Borg Collective encountered paradoxical information about its own creation — thanks to the memories of the Romulans — it might be enough to make it short-circuit. Apparently, the Zhat Vash were formed to guard a secret that would affect the very foundation of Romulan culture if it were to be exposed. Could the Romulans' big secret in Star Trek: Picard be that they were responsible for creating the Borg? As for Dahj, if she truly was the "creator," she might've been built to house the original Romulan blueprints used to birth the Borg, giving the Zhat Vash another motivation to kill her. Reply. Similar reasoning would also explain how Ramdha recognizes Soji as Seb-Cheneb - her Romulan side knows the myth, but her Borg enhancements recognize Data's daughter as the leader who will break their chains. Given Jean-Luc Picard's own traumatic experiences with them, the Borg have appeared quite prominently throughout the first season of Star Trek: Picard. Writer Paul Schneider created the Romulans for the 1966 Star Trek episode "Balance of Terror". I really doubt it. In the 2001 series finale of Star Trek: Voyager , Capt. We’re in the future now, and as Picard frequently says, it’s unwritten. The Romulans had been working on a dormant Borg Cube towards something dubbed the Romulan Reclamation Project, harvesting cybernetic parts from the Borg drones liberated and revived from the Cube. The Federation had some other adversaries, but none as evil and capable as the Borg. OMG!! … The Star Trek: Picard EPs tell us that the Borg and the Romulans have "a new relationship" in this series and it could prove tricky for Captain Picard. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Star Trek: Picard is teasing a big secret involving two of the franchise's greatest enemies. =P. The novels of Star Trek aren’t considered to be canon for the franchise. So GL HF and I hope you don't get assimilated by the Borg. Unlikely. Physically, the Romulans were presented as humanoid, but the show's make-up department gave them pointed ears to distinguish them from humans. We know from Voyager that a Klingon D-7 could get out that far, but it took generations and was still capable of significant warp. The missing piece is how they could have gotten to the Delta Quadrant. By the 24th century, the Romulan Star Empire was one of the major powers in the galaxy. Director James L. Conway later explained, "If there hadn't been a strike, I think it would have been a better script." Star Trek: Picard continues with "Stardust City Rag" February 20th on CBS All Access And Amazon Prime. What are they doing aboard this cube? Firstly, Ramdha recognizes Data's daughter, Soji, as Seb Cheneb and reveals that the Destroyer is one of two sisters. Jim Carrey is Craig’s top acting pick and favorite topics include superheroes, anime and the unrecognized genius of the High School Musical trilogy. Ivy95 Nov 19, 2020. In the mirror universe, the Romulan Republic (sometimes known as the Romulan Empire) was an interstellar state government composed of member planets, colonies, and other outposts. After a supernova destroyed the Romulan sun, the Romulan Free State became the official government. The Federation had some other adversaries, but none as evil and capable as the Borg. The Novel That Did Defeat the Borg. Created with Sketch. Thank you!! Emblem of the Romulan Star Empire. If the Borg were created by the Romulans, or some progenitor race of the denizens of Romulus, the ill effects could have been part of the initial programming that … In the 2001 series finale of Star Trek: Voyager , Capt. This Is What a "Second-Person" Video Game Would Look Like. The traditional Trek antagonists (Klingons/Romulans), the Borg, or the Dominion? The Romulans using Borg tech for their own purposes puts the Borg's dangerous tech in the hands of people who more underhanded in their methods and makes for a dangerous enemy. What are the Romulans doing, period? While the Romulan prophecy of Ganmadan has allusions towards the Borg, it doesn't necessarily suggest one is responsible for the other's creation, although that picture changes when considering the other areas of Romulan culture Star Trek: Picard has revealed. Welcome to The Popcast, we are self proclaimed "Pop Culture Historians" currently focused on science fiction and other sweaty topics. CBS. ... Romulans/Vulcans. The question is, who do you think is more dangerous? However, there is something more insidious bubbling beneath the surface, no doubt connected to the Romulans' new mission to deconstruct an entire Cube of Borg drones. Since joining the Screen Rant fold, Craig has been involved in breaking news stories and mildly controversial ranking lists, but now works predominantly as a features writer. Says who? The Zhat Vash may have the same thinking. Press J to jump to the feed. Of course, the very fact that an ancient Romulan myth would predict destruction at the hands of the Borg hints at a deeper connection between the two species. Just curious is there an episode that references that and if so does that predate the knowledge of the romulans? Created with Sketch. i always thought it was just the standard story of the vulcans creating AI, and then blew up in their faces. There is a theory that the Romulans were the ones to create the Borg. Craig has previously been published on sites such as Den of Geek, and after many coffee-drenched hours hunched over a laptop, part-time evening work eventually turned into a full-time career covering everything from the zombie apocalypse to the Starship Enterprise via the TARDIS. 1 like. The novels of Star Trek aren’t considered to be canon for the franchise. The Romulans at that reclamation site, perhaps with Soji’s help, are clearly trying to use Borg technology to survive. Created with Sketch. (TOS: \"Return to Tomorrow\") In 2369, evidence was discovered that several species including the Romulans, and therefore also the Vulcans, go back to DNA seeded on many planets by ancient humanoids 4.5 billion years ago. The Borg are Back? Related: Star Trek: Picard’s Best Easter Eggs (TOS, TNG, Voyager & More). The Earth-Romulan War lasted just four years, but the effects of it may be the most important thing in all of Star Trek. The Star Trek: Picard EPs tell us that the Borg and the Romulans have "a new relationship" in this series and it could prove tricky for Captain Picard. What if the Romulans were an artificial race, created by the Vulcans? Having previously written for various sports and music outlets, Craig's interest soon turned to TV and film, where a steady upbringing of science fiction and comic books finally came into its own. 4,851 3 3 gold badges 24 24 silver badges 35 35 bronze badges. So yes, I see Alex Kurtzman making the connection & making them being made by the Romulans. If Soji is designed to lead the Borg, why would've Maddox created her as such? In Star Trek: First Contact, the Borg Queen merely states that the Borg were once much like humanity, "flawed and weak", but gradually developed into a partially synthetic species in an ongoing attempt to evolve and perfect themselves. The second episode would have seen the Enterprise and the Romulans team up against the Borg. True but most of Star Trek takes place in the Milky Way galaxy. Reply. Well, the Romulans left Vulcan around the 4th century CE, and the Borg were first reported a thousand years later, albeit on the other side of the galaxy, and long before propulsion like that was invented. I'm hearing now rumors that they are deciding that the Romulans created the Borg. And apparently she’s working at a Romulan reclamation site that also is a Borg cube. 5843 days is over 16 years, which means since Star Trek: Picard is set in 2399, the Romulans somehow captured the Borg Cube at some point in 2383 - during the supernova crisis but … https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://screenrant.com/star-trek-romulans-create-borg-picard-theory/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjsq5P93N_nAhVNX60KHbSgBjQQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3GGnOwA62CYnlsawQlXxWP&cf=1. 1 Origin 2 Temporal incursion 3 22nd century 4 23rd century 5 24th century 5.1 2354-2356 5.2 2362 5.3 2364 5.4 2365 5.5 2366 5.6 2367 5.7 2368 5.8 2369 5.9 2370 5.10 2371 5.11 2373 5.12 2374 5.13 2375 5.14 2376 5.15 2377 5.16 2378 5.17 2380s 6 External link The origin of the Borg is vague. Star Trek: Picard revealed previously that the Romulans attained their Borg Cube when a Scout Ship from the Romulan empire was attacked by Borg and its occupants were assimilated. Also, the Borg are from the Delta Quadrant. Somewhere, somehow the Borg were accidentally created by the Vulcans, resulting in a huge cover-up just like Discovery/Control. Created with Sketch. So if a planet is confronted by the Borg and the planet is resistant, they will … A major clue that the Romulans could've created the Borg many centuries ago comes from a prophecy spoken by a Romulan scholar called Ramdha. 536K views The Borg seek to assimilate cultures and technologies that would … As things stand, the Borg have no clear creation story; the Collective was said to have developed over many thousands of years, but records of Borg activity in the Star Trek universe only go back 1000 years or so, with the species gradually becoming more dominant during that period. Craig first began contributing to Screen Rant in 2016, several years after graduating college, and has been ranting ever since, mostly to himself in a darkened room. The Romulans had been working on a dormant Borg Cube towards something dubbed the Romulan Reclamation Project, harvesting cybernetic parts from the Borg drones liberated and revived from the Cube. The Borg Queen comes closest, but merely acts as a leader, rather than a progenitor. Picard tries to reason with the Borg. Star Trek news and discussion. Since I am going to be playing the Borg, Romulans and the Klingons probably most of the time since the Federation needs a break, though I enjoyed Star Trek: Armada and Armada II's storyline. In fact, the Romulans likely have benefited from Borg technology for over a decade; the Star Trek: Picard trailer shows a sign inside the Borg Cube that says "This facility has gone 5843 days without an assimilation". What if the Romulans created the Borg? If that's a technology the Vulcans had at one time, it's easy to imagine them developing lifelike androids. the borg were not created by anyone that the humans know of. According to Romulan legend, the "Day of Annihilation" will come when " all the shackled demons break their chains " and are led by a "Destroyer" called Seb-Cheneb. The following covers a history of the Romulan and Reman peoples within the timeline of Star Trek Online, the immediately preceding years and times references in the game's lore. Like the Borg say, resistance is futile. There are the warlike Klingons, the trickster Q, and the relentless Borg -- but before most of Trek's repeat villains came the Romulans. It may seem far-fetched, but consider this: Star Trek: Picard has made it clear that it's possible to make androids that are, for all intents and purposes, indistinguishable from humans, as evidenced by Dahj and Soji. It may seem far-fetched, but consider this: Star Trek: Picard has made it clear that it's possible to make androids that are, for all intents and purposes, indistinguishable from humans, as evidenced by Dahj and Soji. but the origin they shown was that the Borg were created by V'Ger as biological probes designed to collect data for v'ger, the Borg queen's species was found to be ideal candidates for organizing the data and eventually rebelled against v'ger taking control of the collective. Reply. Eh, the Borg Collective was a one trick pony after a while, having them try to assimilate Earth and Picard stops them would be old hat at this point. Since Soji is an android, she could be programmed to reawaken and control any Borg disconnected from the hive mind, and perhaps even the connected ones too. But, as so often happens when a female — an El-Aurian, in this case — speaks truth to power, her warnings fall on deaf ears. It does this by using Reapers, harvesting advanced organic life in a cycle to prevent the creation of synthetic life. For the primary universe counterpart, see Romulan Star Empire. The Borg would come to a planet and assimilate that planet so that they basically become Borg. share | improve this question | follow | asked Nov 2 '17 at 9:23. colmde colmde. Page 6: The Romulans & The Borg. What was your favorite faction you created specifically for this Mod? At least, that's my canon. However, the secret Romulan cabal couldn't very well just send Starfleet a letter warning them not to meddle in synthetics any further. I wish I could order you one, you'd look amazing in it as an "evil Vulcan scientist". Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones … The Rise, Fall, and Decay of the Borg (Lore Supercut) Lore Reloaded. Thus far in its first season, Star Trek: Picard has been a comparatively groundbreaking entry within the franchise’s mythology – Information has (at the least) 2 secret daughters, Picard resigned from a corrupt, conspiracy-addled Starfleet, Continue Reading SlaveLynnGreen Sep 18, 2020. Those … The Borg are an alien group that appear as recurring antagonists in the Star Trek franchise. However, there is one novel in which Starfleet did defeat the Borg. Like the Borg say, resistance is futile. Were they responsible for the attack on and … 5843 days is over 16 years, which means since Star Trek: Picard is set in 2399, the Romulans somehow captured the Borg Cube at some point in 2383 - during the supernova crisis but … There are so many questions here. Original Romulan design by Neville Page. Could it be that the Romulans actually created the Borg? I knew that but it might have been where the romulans creation was sent to after a nasty encounter that almost killed all the romulans but they pulled a fast one and somehow transported the entire gen 1 borg as far away as they could hoping to never see them again? 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Considering what Laris was saying about Romulan technology in earlier episodes (that they have never been interested in artificial intelligence) it makes sense. The Romulans came out of hiding because they thought the Borg attacks in the Neutral Zone were done by the Federation. Thanks to the covert operations of Commodore Oh and her underlings, it can also be concluded that the Zhat Vash have a deep hatred of synthetic life and A.I., and for this reason are seeking to destroy Dahj, Soji, and all similar beings. TL;DnR: I think the Zhat Vash are the Borg, who were created by the Romulans and Species 1 and 2 are the Klingons and the Remans. As a basis, he considered what the ancient Roman Empire might have looked like had it developed to the point of spaceflight. Naturally, very little is known about this group, including whether they truly exist, but Laris and Zhaban reveal a few key details. Thanks to Data, Maddox and Starfleet's advancing scientific exploits, Star Trek has charted a gradual progression in the Federation's artificial life, and the Zhat Vash might've finally taken notice. The big thing Picard does is explore the ramifications of the destruction of Romulus, which was the catalyst for the events of J.J. Abrams' Star Trek (2009) new Kelvin timeline. The Borg got there within a year or so (I don't remember exactly). I wonder if the romulans hate sythetics because they created the borg? Perhaps, however, the word "annihilation" was mistranslated, and should actually read "assimilation." It was the Caeliar. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The second episode would have seen the Enterprise and the Romulans team up against the Borg. Welcome to the party pal! These androids would have been created in pairs — so somewhere out there, Dahj has a twin named Soji. Why are the Romulans interested in the Borg? Most believe, however, that this simply is another way of showing the Cube is not controlled by the Borg anymore, but by another race (i.e. The history of the Borg shows the gradual development of the Borg species. Then he attempts to defeat them. Director James L. Conway later explained, "If there hadn't been a strike, I think it would have been a better script." In the novel The Return written by William Shatner, Captain Kirk and Captain … Maybe the Romulans have battled the borg and somehow fought them off, which has left them kind of traumatized. The Borg are Back? One of the many Romulans we created for Star Trek: Picard. She created her own Borg faction, intending to use them to create a force for logic and order in the galaxy. Reply. A synthetic that can assimilate? If the Borg Collective encountered paradoxical information about its own creation — thanks to the memories of the Romulans — it might be enough to make it short-circuit. In fact, the Romulans likely have benefited from Borg technology for over a decade; the Star Trek: Picard trailer shows a sign inside the Borg Cube that says "This facility has gone 5843 days without an assimilation". What is known is by … Therefore, the Zhat Vash have "protected" the galaxy from another Borg creation incident, albeit at the cost of both Federation and Romulan lives. The Borg almost destroyed The Federation. @DevTeam. Created with Sketch. Interestingly, this group of Romulans are the only ones ever assimilated by the Collective — meaning the Borg never took an interest in Romulans the way they did in humans. This natural resistance to assimilation provides another intrinsic and ancient link between Borg and Romulan kind. Incalculably long ago in the Mass Effect universe, a synthetic life uprising became a threat to all organic life, so the Leviathan created Catalyst with the mandate of protecting organic life. With the returns of Seven of Nine and Hugh, Star Trek: Picard is diving deep into what happens when a Borg is separated from the Collective, and the Romulan Reclaimation Project is taking place on an entire Cube of inactive Borg drones. The Borg would come to a planet and assimilate that planet so that they basically become Borg. Well, the Romulans left Vulcan around the 4th century CE, and the Borg were first reported a thousand years later, albeit on the other side of the galaxy, and long before propulsion like that was invented. Sure, the Klingons were a problem for a while, and the Borg seemed really dangerous at first, ... 6 Romulans: Created The Federation. Well the Borg were shown to be all over the Galaxy far away from the Alpha Quadrant & possibly existed millenniums before the Romulans even went into space & the when the Romuluns did first encounter the Borg, they didn't know what they were & thought the Federation was responsible. Although Starfleet initially agreed to help the Romulan empire in their time of need, an ill-timed terrorist attack put paid to that, and this is the main source of the animosity between Starfleet and the Romulans. The first four episodes of Picard have established that the Romulans are working on a Borg Cube called The Artifact, salvaging Borg technology and studying drones cut off from the Borg Collective. Star Trek: Picard has confirmed that Maddox was still working at the Daystrom Institute prior to Starfleet's synth ban, but took the change of legislation very badly and has barely been seen since. The origin of the Borg is never made clear, though they are portrayed as having existed for hundreds of thousands of years (as attested by Guinan and the Borg Queen). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. ... Romulans/Vulcans. Although not explicit, there are several Borg clues within this Romulan myth. The script that was shot was a first draft, and due to the writer's strike in place, no amendments were subsequently made. Delta: Borg, Hirogen, Kazon, Gamma: Dominion. The last we see of the Romulan Empire in the timeline is in Star Trek: Picard. This is said to have been the first time the Borg attempted to turn Romulans into their own kind, although the accuracy of this statement is a topic of debate, but exactly why Romulan biology proved so resistant to Borg control remains a key mystery of Star Trek: Picard. ... Maybe a little slash fic. 1 Origin 2 Temporal incursion 3 22nd century 4 23rd century 5 24th century 5.1 2354-2356 5.2 2362 5.3 2364 5.4 2365 5.5 2366 5.6 2367 5.7 2368 5.8 2369 5.9 2370 5.10 2371 5.11 2373 5.12 2374 5.13 2375 5.14 2376 5.15 2377 5.16 2378 5.17 2380s 6 External link The origin of the Borg is vague. With the histories of the Borg and Romulans continuing to intertwine with each episode of Star Trek: Picard, it's possible that the two races are more closely integrated that previously thought, and many are speculating (RLM, for example) that the Romulans might've actually been responsible for creating the Borg in the first place. Before the war, the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites had tried to form a shared government, but they could not come together. Centuries later, after those early Borg experiments had developed and spread across the galaxy, the Romulans and Borg have now come into contact again, spelling disaster for all. Star Trek gives good bad guy. We’ve known the Borg interacted with the Romulans from the first season of The Next Generation. There are so many questions here. By "shackled demons," it's hard not to imagine Ramdha is referring to the disconnected Borg. What if the Romulans were an artificial race, created by the Vulcans? no. 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